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dombnicky

Dom

¡Muy Importante!

Manchester, England

Joined on 13 October, 2010

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I'm going to have to beg my local chippy to do this, I'm not going to Bolton.

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The whole situation is nuanced and full of complication, it's part of why we have courts of law; so when people commit crimes they're punished, and when citizens commit complicated crimes they're held accountable, not discounted, not deleted, but tried by justice.

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Shamima Begum is 21 currently. She was <15 years old when she and her friends decided to leave this country to join ISIS. What she's done as an adult is one thing, her choices as a child are another, or do we erase manipulation and grooming of children as they become adults.

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I've not even touched on the idea that 14/15 year old girls are "groomed" by 'sex gangs' (they obviously are!), but as a certain right-wing radio personality said today "...15 year olds know right from wrong, surely."

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We either kill terrorists (of any political/religious affiliation) in the midst of committing their acts of hate, or we pursue them and bring them before a court of law with a mind to try and convict them of their crimes. I thought that was the idea we were being sold all along.

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In short, after much waffle, this fucking government, of this fucking Tory party, have fucked up massively yet again. Yes the court made this decision, but they made it because the government appealed an early court decision against Javid's revocation of Begum's British status.

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I doubt it would be a universal stance, but the worst cases would attract this kind of thinking, or the temptation to take it, especially where countries have little to lose, unless we bribed them.

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The other side to all this is that we should expect countries in the future to revoke the citizenship status of criminals we are looking to deport, we've set a spectacularly idiotic president now, against ourselves.

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Going back to the idea of needing a passport, I always thought "...why do I need a passport, I'm not leaving the country, I'm not going on holiday, I know my N.I. number...".

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If the idea is that we throw people away entirely though, if certain crimes were committed, then we should expect people on the road to those crimes (or in them) to feel more affiliation with the people they're ensconced with, dig in and we lose them. Surely life is worth more.

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To me a terrorist, regardless of their affiliation, be that religious or political, deserves their day in court, and if found guilty, deserve their time in prison.

I'd hope it would be a long sentence, and I'd hope they'd reflect on their crime/s, feel regret and reform.

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If there was evidence of her being a terrorist, or being involved in terrorism, I (maybe naively) would've thought it would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to demonstrate that the justice system of the UK has no point of termination, and ALL citizens will face a court.

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I suspect her status as a British citizen was revoked because (aside of a good vote generator) the evidence of crime was hard if not impossible to come by, hence she'd not face any prison time, leading to the ultimate Daily Mail + Express + Star meltdown.

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Personally, as relevant as any opinion is, I want to know what (if any, as the saying goes) terrorist crimes Shamima Begum committed. If she did committed those crimes then she should be punished by us, and/or the country she committed those crimes in.

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Everyone is capable of redemption, not everyone chooses that path of course. Justice and a trial is something we all enjoy in this country, as citizens. Seems to be even if you're born here that right is only as secure as your parents 'original nationality'.

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Of course I'm not a CHILD being groomed into some sort of role in a terrorist death cult, but that's not the point. The point is that if I commit a crime (or crimes) I'd expect to face a court if I'm caught, not finding my status as a British citizen simply revoked.

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If you're born in this country you'd never imagine you're status being taken from you. Until Windrush hit the news I honestly thought the ideas my mum had about us needing a passport to be daft, then I thought it was just for her. Now I wonder how secure my status is.

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Quoted @mrjamesob

The justification for stripping Begum of her nationality was, I think, her parents being born foreign. This means that I, & most Brits, could never receive the same punishment but Sajid Javid & Priti Patel could. They support this situation, I think it's clearly wrong. How weird.

I was discussing this with my (Indian born) mum today, who longed drilled into us to always have our passports renewed, and to this day (she's 70 this year) fears the day she has to prove her right to remain in the country she's called home since 1966 because she fears rejection.

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This is why I don’t lose weight, or shift my wobbly belly. I’ve cycled 820 km so far this year, but these take roughly 20 minutes to make, and life is too short to not eat freshly baked chocolate chip cookies when you feel like it.

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